Pastors Unfiltered #109: Why the Next 20 Years Could Change the Church Forever

Jun 27, 2025

In this special episode of Pastors Unfiltered, Dr. Joseph Castleberry—author, theologian, and former president of Northwest University—joins Pastors Brandon Beals and Tony Mattar for a wide-ranging and powerful conversation about revival, awakening, and the future of the Church. Dr. Castleberry shares key insights from his book The Sixth Great Awakening, unpacking the difference between revival and awakening, and why the next 20 years could be the most spiritually significant in history.


00:00 – Intro and Seattle Weather Banter

02:00 – Weekend Recap with Brett Allen

05:15 – Summer Plans: Boats, Pickleball, and Vacations

08:00 – Disneyland and Club 33 Anniversary

10:20 – Introduction of Dr. Joseph Castleberry

12:15 – Seinfeld References and Light Banter

13:30 – Can Pastor Brandon Get an Honorary Doctorate?

16:10 – What Honorary Doctorates Really Mean

18:00 – Dr. Castleberry's Reflections on Coaching Doctoral Students

20:00 – Introducing “The Sixth Great Awakening” Book

22:30 – Revival vs Awakening: What’s the Difference?

27:45 – Current Spiritual State of America

30:40 – Revival Trends on the West Coast and Spirit-Filled Churches

33:00 – Signs of Revival and Sociological Trends

35:15 – European Revival and Gen Z Church Growth

38:10 – Rise of Men in Church Attendance

40:45 – Catholic and Orthodox Growth Among Gen Z

45:20 – Transubstantiation and Catholic Renewal

48:30 – Book Insights: The Next 20 Years of Church and Culture

53:40 – AI, Economic Disruption, and Opportunity

57:15 – The Importance of Praying for Revival

01:00:10 – Jesus Movement Memories and Hopes for the Future

01:03:45 – Why the Next Awakening Isn't Guaranteed for the Church

01:07:10 – Why Christian Higher Education Still Matters

01:12:20 – Northwest University’s Legacy and Impact

01:17:15 – Dr. Castleberry’s Next Chapter: Washington D.C. and Ministry to Leaders

01:22:40 – Georgetown Research, New Book Plans, and Latin American Influence

01:27:30 – Final Reflections and Farewell to Seattle

01:29:00 – Rapid Fire: What Are You Listening to, Reading, and Watching?

01:32:00 – Closing Thoughts and Gratitude


Here is a link to Dr. Castleberry's book

https://www.amazon.com/Sixth-Great-Awakening-Renewal-American/dp/B0DB2RXPRX/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3JDNVI4PW5E9R&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.We-uUEpKfVFekIKuyKT0t0XszZSEPwD8UUa75rWCghOCfBLR3Sccxod5n_oVJ91h5pezM8EbPFglL0Pf4FdxORZrVa6e-TlFZo9zNy-5gjSDQCzadWLtLHW_vGGmo1AxqVouzksGuqQbz-05GBRzqXIM3BJ_UiopU2lrt3dhVJA-UHpI3DksdJQ_n9ya6eveuicFsdG8dHD3DzmCNOahtbNxguhebU4CajkX8mBrtzY.miY4CmHHe3n_bFObg9CNB6YCeq5ZZmV0Id4d_0mMc6s&dib_tag=se&keywords=6th+great+awakening&qid=1750991180&sprefix=6th+great+%2Caps%2C165&sr=8-1