Pastors Unfiltered #106: Mosaic Marriage with Pastors Troy and Jana Jones
On this week’s episode of Pastors Unfiltered, Pastor Tony and Pastor Brandon welcome longtime friends Pastors Troy and Jana Jones from New Life Church in Renton, WA. Together, they dive into everything from viral moments in the Seattle church scene, to the incredible unity and growth happening across the region, to what it really looks like to build a strong, lasting marriage in ministry. Troy and Jana unpack the heart behind their new book, The Mosaic Marriage: How Two Imperfect People Become One Masterpiece, sharing stories from their 36 years of marriage—including hard conversations, personality differences, raising kids, and leading side-by-side in church.
00:00 – Intro: PB’s fresh Lecrae obsession
02:30 – Lecrae’s backstory & recent influence
05:15 – Why Lecrae’s words hit different now
07:40 – The spiritual deconstruction conversation
10:10 – Lecrae’s evolution: from rapper to prophet
13:00 – When churches become culture clubs
15:30 – Lecrae’s journey through criticism & canceling
18:15 – How to tell when you're idolizing a system, not Jesus
21:00 – Cultural Christianity vs. gospel-centered faith
23:30 – PB shares the “nothing changes if nothing changes” sermon moment
26:20 – The risk of making church comfortable instead of compelling
29:00 – Jesus didn’t come to entertain – He came to transform
31:15 – Tensions: love for the Church vs. critique of its culture
33:30 – Tony’s thoughts on Lecrae as a theologian
36:10 – Why Gen Z and Millennials are walking away
38:40 – Christian celebrity vs. authentic witness
42:00 – Discipleship: shaping hearts, not managing behavior
44:30 – The Lecrae interview that sparked this episode
47:00 – Tony’s closing: When the gospel feels more like a mirror than a badge
49:00 – Outro: shoutout to Lecrae & future guests
The Mosaic Marriage Book Here: